I mentor medical students and have taught several from abroad. Florentina Joseph, I am a caribbean national and I want to support that point emphatically and further state the No Caribbean medical school is owned by a Caribbean national. I am disappointed in the method that US Medical Schools select their students as I would bet on me against any US medical student out there. I also have a second home in Atlanta, so I would not have to pay for housing for rotations there. Dont be afraid to cold call and explain your interests. By semester 3 they were down to 29, and in the end, only 17 graduated from that batch. Low attrition rates, and good performance on Step and in Rotations is why SGU has the ability to match so much better than any other Caribbean school. Its true. They told the school that using the students assigned work without their permission was against the law and that the schools accreditation mattered more that the money they could make from the questions written by their students. So I went to graduate school to become an NP instead and so glad that I did after reading various information regarding Caribbean medical schools and even Us schools and not being able to match. Yes he works hard, but he made $230K by himself last year. How are loan to be paid back. The majority of Do you also have children. SABA University School of Medicine is a good medical school located in the Caribbean islands. At schools like Yale School of Medicine, class attendance is not required. HiHave you enrolled in a medical school as yet? Can retake the MCAT and reapply to med schools in the US, but that would push off my journey by two years. We also have a health clinic on campus that also takes emergencies 24/7. Residency, University of Washington, 2014 Graduate. More surprisingly is this school has partnerships with hospital in New Jersey and New York that offer to cover half or full tuition to students eligible for the scholarship. I want to be a psychiatrist and have 6 years experience working with sever persistent mentally ill, and great recommendations. If you are considering a Caribbean school, first I would strongly advise for you to apply to U.S schools first. couldnt take the Primero anyhow. The school's . Read more would provide an excellent medical education and expansive career opportunities. If you dont like dealing with problems that you are not used to, please the Caribbean is not for you. While all the Campuses (Barbados, Jamaica and Trinidad) offer high quality Medical degrees, I highly recommend the beautiful Cave Hill Campus in Barbados. He read his psychiatry textbooks and tried to ask as many patients to share their experience with their illness as a way to understand. Some one need to go after this any stop to start with 800 kids and box size room . But hey maybe after 4 years of graduation and being unemployed you will realize you should have quit and by then your parents will be begging you to move out of the garage. We have a lot of student organizations in case you want to show off your leadership skills. We WERE able to sign petitions, and they backed down What you dont know is, in graduate school, you need an 80% to keep going, so a 70 should be a walk in the park, if not, you are just not cut out for medical school. If they need to cut down class size numbers, the heads of the departments are told to use a more difficult test bank by the Dean. In 2017, there were over 45,000 applications for very few positions in Germany for example, with average Med School size around 300-350 and you needed a perfect GPA (Abitur / Matura / baccalaureat) plus entrance exams (TMS or HamNat for Germany) and be fluent in the native language of course. Since its founding, more than 2500 students have earned their medical degree at Saba. I cannot see myself doing medical school over again from scratch, I invested over 5 years to medical school (including pre-med program) Its painful what I have gone through. It WAS Bad, because Mexicans hate us Gringos. The Gobernacion gave us a bad time with our visas, if we registered our cars from America legally, it was Hell. I dont mean every student. I am very happy to be here in the Caribbean. I feel that a lot of what was said above is a gross exaggeration. At the event, there were a number of E.L.A.M. The stress of clicking in, finding a seat, and waiting in lines on a campus that cant accommodate this many people is a reason for the students who drop out in the first few weeks, which my school has statistics on and they know this will happen after years of practicing the purposeful overcrowding. I had a better experience at Avalon University School of Medicine environment with smaller classes and clinical availabilities. I worked hard throughout but there were those days where I didnt think I passed an exam or if I could keep pushing myself. Curriculum Next is what they call it, well you know what they decided to do. He had a 4.0 sgpa, and would definitely be able to get into US schools but that would set us back a year and a half. And almost none of that is left. Does anyone have any reviews on UMHS is St.Kitts? Also as an athlete, you knew when not to run or when running, when to stop, like if you pull a muscle. needless to say, thousands thrive, do well on the USMLE and match into competitive residency programs while others fail out or are unable to match in the US. Return from Saba medical school to Medical School Insider. There are 10s of upper term students who have groups where they help teach lower term students the material. I really appreciate your insights and candidness. Hello, my friend has been accepted to SJSM fall 19 and has recommended the school to me. I hope your friend makes it through. Contact Dr. Wible. had paid hundreds of dollars for the Fianza bond but they tried to SJSM is discussed extensively on Student Doctor Network. Hi, Essentially, if you really want to become a physician and are willing to gamble away thousands of dollars of borrowed money and lose your health in the process, then Caribbean medical experience is the place to be! Am I breezing through school of course not. With 900 students how did we get down to 650? Although the school was lacking in creature comfortsthe students slept in bunk beds; the hot water and electricity were unreliable; there was little access to the Internet or the phonePhillip powered through. My friend and I both got 73% on our exams, they let her take Ck and didnt let me. And as far as extracurriculars go, youll need to get that minimum 50 hours experience. But-the program director was an old- So, why are so many students failing or dropping out? Is Saba a good med school? After she applied and was accepted, she braced herself for her six-year odyssey in Cuba. Now go and become a Doctor !!!!! Two years will fly by. Youre totally right! Although the Caribbean medical schools are not as good as the American ones, im thinking about studying medicine over there because I want to be a doctor so badly and ill Work really hard for it. Programs like St. Georges University can be equally as expensive, with a price of $62,000 per year in just educational fees. Pamela Wible, M.D., reports on human rights violations in medicine and what really goes on behind the scenes in medical training and culture. However, problems arise when the balance between profits and obligations to the students (customers) become heavily skewed in favor of the school, when lying becomes normal and illegal activities occur. People really turn the Caribbean medical school discussion into something bigger than it really it. The instructors are from different counties and are sometimes at high levels in their fields. We have no shortage of doctors, only a shortage of residency residencys. Massachusetts, Born and raised in the UK, Will went into medicine late (31) after a career in journalism. USMLE pass rate: 97% There are people who want to be a doctor for the sake of becoming a doctor, and also some who need an MD for research jobs, medicolegal, Med School Professors, ETC.. These kids are not geniuses. Four hundred people (half the class) got an A on the hardest exam in school. St George and AUC on the other hand is on a more touristy island so there are more readily available goods and amenities. Many classes end up with less than 10 students by the end of basic sciences. But I guess thats more reasonable than going to that one Phil MED school allowing US Student Loans and US MED/Caribbean Territory rates. Lack of access to educational loans (two friends went to rehab for alcohol/drug use) Its now being run in such a way that I would highly recommend students look elsewhere. Compared to most U.S. medical schools, Sabas requirements arent as difficult to match. I would become a NP and forget medical school.. not worth the trouble and headaches. Here's what he says. Perhaps US Department of Education should start and investigation. Dont push the life out of yourself; but when you know you got the heat and the energy go and go hard. While Saba used to have class sizes about 120 just a few (2-3) years ago, and can easily fit those sizes into their lecture theatres, however the total student population for all five semesters combined is now below this and the average class size for semesters 1 and 2 is below 20. I decided to go through the arduous task of preparing my AMAC application and apply to the few schools that did not require all prerequisites within the last 5 years. I had about 6-8 very close friends that I went through the process with. How does competing for the highest grades, step scores, studying & working for 80, 90, 100+ hours per week, staying up for hours on end making life and death decisions lead to a properly trained, healthy, emotionally centered, happy physician who still has the capacity to love their patients and themselves? Does anyone recommend to retake the MCAT and get into a medical school in the US instead of the Caribbean? 4 Is it hard to get into Saba medical school? (many friends had full blown meltdowns/psychotic breaks/personality changes in the first 2 years). This is for money and I dont believe it is good for humans to go through this type of abuse while in training to help others. I really dont see the point of going to the Caribbean and going through all of that struggle and spending 250K to do it. It is a sinking ship. Tuition was a lot less then nowadays. My school gave me the opportunity to study medicine, something that US medical schools didnt do for me. PLEASE ANYONE READING THIS POST SHARE IT. Now, I am trying to pick up the pieces to get back on track to pursue my dream of becoming a physician. I decided to apply to this school. We were used as These factors are critical because if you are in an environment that you hate, it makes it very difficult to focus on studies and to maintain healthy mental health. I only applied to Ross and St. George because I knew my chances to get into a U.S medical school was slim to none. I am hoping to enter the May 2018 Class. Getting into medical school in the USA is tough and I suggest that if you cant get into an MD program, try for a DO program and if you cant get in after a few cycles then to find another career altogether. There are lots of lawyer at USA for wrong thing so why there no lawyer for any kids and fix the system? If you wanted to be a dermatologist and got a 230 on Step, it is the equivalent of saying good luck knowing you, you will not be able be a dermatologist.Maybe internal medicine is good for you! All in all, that is how it is. None of the facilities are amazing, but you actually can live with a hot plate and microwave without starving. This is your dream, take it seriously. I would just like point out that in order for a Caribbean-based student to become licensed as an MD, he/she has to pass the same exams and survive clinicals the same way U.S. based students have to. It not a well appreciated or respected field. if u can get into med school in the US, of course u should go to school in the US, but if like me, u had a foreign undergrad degree and the idea of US medical rotations/the chance to practice in the US appeals to you, then research a caribbean school that suits u. my 25 cents. Period. Chukwumah I will like to get in touch with you. You cant take STEP 1 until youve passed it and you get three chances to pass it. Heres how I kept my soul. Let me give you a brief history about myself. According to USMLE performance data, the school also had a UMSLE Step 1 pass rate of 96 percent in 2018. A little bit about me. sticker every few months, and got a new one. The negative attitude predominates on campus, so I chose to live off campus with success driven students to escape it. anyone else sorry and naturally they have low attrition rates. I am from the US, grew up in rural America and became a mom my senior year of high school. If you are an IMG, you know this when you start med school. This is the best article Ive ever read on the truth of such schools. It is walking distance to the main grocery store and it is literally on the beach. Fuck the masters degree and do an assessment of your abilities and work your ass off to have the necessary abilities and basic knowledge to achieve whatever goal you want to pursue. These students usually pay 2 to 3 times more in tuition, so schools will typically allow them to apply and a certain number will get accepted further limiting available seats. My partner Karen never took the USMLE Part II and uses her Harvard MD to enable her basic science and clinical research for stem cells treating cancer. You sound like you were paid to say this. OMG! I attended a Caribbean medical school in a Spanish speaking Island. One thing that could make Saba worth applying to however is its residency track record. It is scary. Stop going to the beach every afternoon. Thats not what I signed up for. Whatever is the reason, its better for you to ask and do your research about medical schools. Why student suffer like this. I believe that my application was simply filtered out due to my low MCAT score with no consideration that I still did better than many students who took the exam and I have been out of school for 30 years. I am Registered Nurse and over thirty five and thinking about going for MD in the Caribbean medical school. I love my school and I am very grateful for this opportunity. 2 sections/200 student lecture in one classroom. Things happen. Yes, I agree that NPs have their issues as well as PAs. The school backed down and reinstated the old grading scheme for the classes. 5) Students who can not self study and teach themselves the material fail. Im not arguing. were a Girl, and serviced the Dean, you had it MADE. would stab you in the back with a unilateral attendance policy (too bad If you want a 250 STEP 1 score you work for it. We have to get a 230 usually just to get looked at. For those of you interested in studying medicine in the Caribbean, there are options apart from the for-profit off shore medical schools. For 30 years, Saba University School of Medicine has been turning dedicated students into Saba doctors. You sound like youve been contacted by the faculty of sgu and asked to write a counter piece my friend. run into car crash medicine scamswith the local Mafia staging the I have met doctors from this school at different hospitals but unfortunately, many people dont know that graduates from Caribbean schools contribute to a great majority of physicians in the US. They hired a lawyer for my friend because she spoke the truth. It was hard work but I made it! But they make it and they become doctors. Having had THREE loved ones in Same Week: three different states have something basic simpleDEAD due to teams of no speakem englishem experimenting on US Citizenry nothing more need be stated. They do have decent scholarships available. Fewer students from Caribbean med schools go on to the more competitive residencies, Saba included. I enrolled in 2 semesters of physics and passed with an A and a B+. It was difficult trying to cram all that information from 30 years ago into my head. The Carribean Medical Schools are businesses and intake more students than they can arrange rotations for. Residency Placements: 94% of eligible Saba graduates attained residencies between 2019 and 2021, Saba is a fully accredited medical school, I looked at the USMLE stats, match rate, cost and class size and chose Saba. Watch Bad Medicine Losing It The Falcon and the Snowman and From the School. You know physicians and medical students bash NPs and PAs all the time. You are not good enough to become a PA and thats why you ended up in the worst school in carribean. You learn to understand the struggles of locals and how they survive so that even the cook gives you free food and knows your name. To start, you need to be financially secure. Please, as an international student, what advise can you give me on their scholarships and how I can support myself with the remaining balance through out my stay in the Caribbean medical schools as a poor student? Your author here started without information and had not realized how stacked was/is the deck and what is the numbers game. 4. I am Pharmacist in 40s with a child and I will start this year .I appreciate if we you can discuss with me your experience. The fact that you cant complain or ask for change because no one is listening and going to change things might be the worst thing for you, but some people might just not let that affect them. USMLE 1,2 clinical equivalent. Kissing Butt worked. us a SUPER-hard time with our student visas. I cant vouch for the others. Additionally, do you truly believe that requiring students who failed or are/ were on academic probation to earn a C or better to remain in school too much to ask with regards to preparing to become a physician? Ive gotten As and Bs in my first two years and so far all As for my core rotations and electives. The US Department of Educations foreign schools team in Washington was also fixated more on the finances as related to the country (as opposed to the finances as related to students citizens) or the standards of the academic institution. I graduated from AUC. There are waterfalls to jump off of and mountains to hike, and the friends that you make will be the best friends youve ever had in your life. Odds are about even with the Florida lottery. Some left because they couldnt handle the living conditions and others because they got frustrated by the way the school does business and transferred to another medical school. Register to our upcoming in-person events and webinars! Saba students earn top residencies at medical centers across the US and Canada. My hope for the future of Medical school is this. SJSM is a for-profit business. The flip side of THAT is: I need to be honest and say that Ive had a really hard time at SJSM. Student Mentor. The government office gave us a Bad time with our student visas, to the point where we had to go in and out of the country with tourist passes during our rotation years. Here is my 2 cents: The goal of this post is to provide prospective medical students with some information that will likely not be volunteered to you by the admissions office of the school. Your post has caused me to stop, pause, and think. Its equipped with a nice and big gym that is located in front of the schools beach. How did you manage to keep your soul? AMCAS, AAMC etc. I told them I never got federal loans. Another major problem is not really getting admission even though student do everything perfect . Youll probably hold on for dear life, scraping by until the NBME individual subject exams (standardized) make finishing the program untenable. I graduated from school in 2004. You have to be really open to surprises if you want to take a journey to a Caribbean school. The curriculum is designed to cap and limit the knowledge of the student to ensure they will score within the USMLE score range to match into family/internal medicine. Thats it. Saba Medical School (Saba University School of Medicine) is located in The Bottom, Saba, in the Caribbean.This Caribbean medical school was founded in 1993 and has enrolled about 1500 MD students since that time. Medicine is no longer a profession. -AUA, after the curriculum change does the school have better stats? hi please, im from Nigeria and would like to get in touch with you about caribbean medical schools. Trust me and stay tuned. 6) Emotional distress/burnout/sickness This is the area that caught me off guard. is it still considered on of the top school in the Caribbean? Thanks Tori. 2. When you shed that, and realize glory is subjectiveyou will find it in any pursuit you embark on. also, as long as they keep admitting the student with the 1.9gpa and no mcat to compete with the perfect gpa student with multiple research publications, etc to be in the same class, then the attrition rate will stay high. Only 50% of these foreign med grads find an actual internship. For a place free of distractions to focus on the demanding preclinical curriculum of medical school, you wont do better than Saba. Compared to U.S. or Canadian schools, however, especially those with strong rankings thanks to research, etc., it's definitely not as good. Finally, in my experience, the costs of medical school are far beyond what they really need to be. Do you have any undisclosed information on their loan for international student? You can not be a nurse either bc they are highly smart persons which obviously you are not. Saba students earn top residencies at medical centers across the US and Canada. Do you want to deal with that or you want to deal with just medical school and not too many surprises at home? During my gap year my daugther was killed in an accident. Some semesters they were lax with enforcement, but, then suddenlyBANG! If one falls below 80% attendance they are automatically failed in the course. I figured out everything is suck during clinicals. Dont ruin your life chasing a career that saw its golden age come and go fifty years ago. Hes a 3rd year med student, end of year and dude is clueless. But the biggest take home message I received from this was that this is how were training our physicians in a time where we need heath care practitioners of all types more than ever. If things are too hard for you, pre-med or term 1 is the time to figure that out. Sorry, you go there just to memorize few booklets to pass the boards without even having the basic knowledge of treating the patients. The school requires certain people with questionable ability to first go through that course. What school if you dont mind sharing. However, Caribbean medical schools offer an alternative for people like my son, whom all grade in Canadas university is 92% and over, and MCAT was on the top and he did not received any admission or even interview for admission to any Canadas medical university due to this spot are offered for international student who pay more money. Pluses are that class sizes are small. you can ride a jet ski (can anyone frown on a jet ski?!) I will use all i have learned and what i will learn and find my niche and my place in the system. We prepare them for the MCAT. If you decide to study on the islands, save yourself from comparing to the USA except if it something related to getting a good score. These are poor kids who have even earned Ds and Fs in previous classes. Or a plan B, C and D. Dont let one thing totally devastate you and put you on the edge. Things all happen for a reason. The Caribbean islands are a beauty, but they are not a walk in the park. Hey, could you let me know about the pros and cons of studying at all saints St. Vincent and the grenadines? i know SABA has an extremely small class size i have heard positive reviews on it and would love to know if you know of these schools rep or know anyone who went to them and their experiences. Personally, Im thankful for the experience because, despite the intense, God awful stress I endured. A pre-med student must first assess their motivation and personal aptitude. Why does your comment about minorities seem like they just give any minority a seat at Med School dont they also have the requisite grades? i am looking to apply to Ross, SABA and AUC. The landlords are Bad down there, and you have NO recourse in anything! This whole experience has been embarassing for me, financially enslaving, and just horrible. We know that US medical schools are not the ivory towers either. That and SGU is the only legitimate school out of the bunch and make sure youre a good test taker. What helps is knowing yourself, for me that was knowing that after surviving a brief Boarding school experience and then High School, I could survive anything, even being a doctor if I get there. Not only that but, my school has such a great diversity of students that it is so cool when the students offer you a place to stay anytime you plan a trip. You are going to meet people that you dont agree with and people that you will love on the islands. If not after you get ECFMG certified there is only a 50% match rate for IMG both US and non US citizen. We often rotated in non-teaching hospitals, and were used as surrogate Interns! I have a B.sc in human anatomy and wish to study medicine in a carribean university because they are cheaper than the those in the US and better than most of our Universities over here. Many Ivy League and non-Ivy League medical schools are like that. The amount of resources available online is insane. If a student does fall below either mark students may or may not be allowed to decel, which means repeating the failed class; however, this looks bad on a residency app and if one fails again they are almost certainly dismissed (rare exceptions). Why terrify these young people and pit them against one another in for-profit med schools. Compared to most U.S. or Canadian medical schools, Saba is easier to get into. EMTs? And we dont see any changes being made with that extra money anyway. Dont listen to all that, you can succeed in the Caribbean and as an older student. Do you get federal loans for Saba University? Dr. Stewart hi. But we also teach them some of the more complex subjects of medical school. They ALSO DID THIS WITH MY OTHER FRIEND. Not only that but, my school has such a great diversity of students that it is so cool when the students offer you a place to stay anytime you plan a trip. Then how can they effectively prepare us for it, when they themselves dont even know what its like? I have qualified and met the exact same requirements at my peers to become a doctor, but you will have to work hard for it. How do I know, because thousands and thousands have passed through and are now doctors and you didnt. My son is doing very well at SGU and deliberating between Chicago & NY clinicals? I reached the clinical level (did great in basic sciences)incurred over 200K in student loan debt. Being a doctor is not just having an MD, but knowing how to handle your own life; and how to heal from ups and downs so that you can be an inspiration of healing other people in pain. Dont listen to all the bad talk about Carribean Med Schools,just try to get into the right one.St.George in Grenada in my opinion is by far the best.There is also Ross in Dominica and American School of the Carribean in St. Marteen.Good luck! Overall, I decided that I would withdraw and I would try getting into a U.S Medical school. Whats the math on that??? From above posts the attrition rate is high but many get the chance they couldnt get in their home country. surrogate Interns, and otherwise treated poorly. Anyways, the school built their own dorm. These are the students who started something and are going to finish, even if it means living in a box. Find out more here. European model of 6 years is much better and slower pace. There is housing for the majority of us, and even if students dont get housing, there are many buildings and houses right outside the school that we can rent. As I read your post, I chuckled a bit. Im a RN, BSN and in my late 40s. Usually I never comment on blogs but your article is so convincing that I cant stop myself from saying something and giving my best review about it. If a student is doing poorly, SGU will even move them into an entirely separate learning track where they learn the material in small groups instead of lecture halls. Is it worth it? I wish to know what University over there in the caribbeans you would recommend from your own cognition and what school you attend now. Saba University. I feel that no one who is truly motivated and belongs in the field of medicine can fail if they have such an attitude. Antigua and Barbuda have two Carib MD schools that have a combined match rate of 46%. (but if you want in on a little secret, the highest paid professors at a US school get paid for their research! Which they did by the way to the semester 1 students. Is there anyway you can put me in touch with David for tips. Are current students honest with them during the interview process? Before a race when doing track, you thought about the track and you thought about if you can handle what you are about to do, and you planned or imagined yourself running the race and the speed that you needed. In the United States, more and more graduates are choosing specialtiescardiology, radiology, urologyover primary care, which pays less. More than 25 years and 2,500+ successful graduates later . Ive watched my classmates drop out, semester after semester. Check out this keynote and answer the 7 questions at the end then maybe we can talk. MED5 curriculum requirements has been changing during the semester as we speak. You pick yourself up, excellent Step scores, less medical errors than any other doctor; no explanation just do it. And FYI, my mommy and daddy have never foot any bills for me. I know people that started medical school with grades you never thought anyone could get because medical school is hard, and that ended up getting grades I was like how they do that. The school also offers yoga and meditation classes, volleyball, soccer, basketball, tai chi, spinning, kick boxing, jiu jitsu, dancing classes, and many more that I dont remember. Any information will be truly appreciated. With help from family, friends, and an organization called Medical Education Cooperation with Cubawhich helps American students in Cuba prepare for their homecoming with scholarships, tutoring for U.S. exams, and connections to American medical networksshe returned home each summer, gaining experience at hospitals in Minneapolis, Oakland, and Washington, D.C. (Major Pros & Cons). Hello, please does any know about SABA university and if it is a good school because am thinking of applying there. I worry about what would happen if the school closed due to lack of attendance. Does anyone know about AUIC in Barbados? My son studys 15 yo 17 hour days. Saba is also one of the most estabilished and long running schools in the Caribbean, founded in 1993. The faculty is diverse. Insurance per semester: $295. Hi please I really need help and direction I will appreciate if we can talk am a Nigerian too considering going to the medical school in carebbean,please contact me. So building stress handling skills in medical schools whether you study in US, or the tough Caribbeans, which also are the awesome beauty, is plus. Not just reading itbut learning it well enough so if anyone asked you a question about any concept within the book, you could easily answer? Or if you know anyone who attended tat school. Do you have a family on island or back home? If you have poor study habits fix them or dont go to medical school at all. They make it impossible to do any- I am an FMG. SGU in past 10 years drastically increased their medical classes. So david did you find a residency match yet. Hence, I urge the many readers and exceptional pre-meds that have read the article you have brought forward to be informed but definitely not afraid to pursue their dream. 16% graduation rate??? I prefer to go to the beach, go hiking, or to a resort after an exam, than going to a bar in NYC during the wintertime. Are you the type of person that can adapt easily and those things dont bother you? Questions would highlight what should I know. You are literally living at a cruise ship destination! Those of you who are considering medicine as a career field need to understand that medical school is perhaps the best part of the training process. Perhaps more people than deserve one. Its not for everybody like I said but if the economics of US med school admissions are not in your favor, SGU will give you an opportunity that you otherwise would not have. final, you got a Segundo and Regularizationa second or third try. US grads could be taken into Residencies but not an IMG without Part II, So I still dont have a license today and tons of student loan debt because of several family catastrophies, including my husband passing and catastrophic illness of one of my children. Tried to go to psych and turns out he would be my professor. https://www.idealmedicalcare.org/blog/bambi-syndrome/. Get out while you still can. Besides that, the school has 20+ selectives that includes on campus selectives and international trips to shadow physicians in other countries, research opportunities on campus, as well as, research opportunities in other countries. Inhumane and cruel organizations and human rights violations in medicine need to stop. Im still trying to understand the reasoning behind the current modal of physician training that we have. Unless a path is handed to you, its going to be a battlefield. Please use paragraphs next time. Yes! SGU is the 4th largest source of doctors so what you guys are saying is scaring me! . I hope my words have inspired at least one person and have lit a fire under the buttocks of others. Sadly some of my friends are figuring this out the hard way, many of which have fallen into alcohol or drug abuse etcsimply to deal with the stress and everything that they have to put up with at this school. Does SGU give the opportunity of rotation in US for all the students or just few top students? With a 2.0 gpa admission cut-off, people with below average academic performance can pay their tuition to SJSM and attend medical school. They appeal one student but not the other. Do not rely on guidelines to remain as they are. Most physician actively work to convince their children its a fools errand. Good luck! I strongly dislike the state of Medical schools. Pill mills abound, Ive even The school also offers yoga and meditation classes, volleyball, soccer, basketball, tai chi, spinning, kick boxing, jiu jitsu, dancing classes, and many more that I dont remember. I am not surprised as this would benefit the bottom line. But compared to data surrounding similar Caribbean schools like St. Georges Medical School in Grenada (at 41%), this might be an incorrect assumption. so this is a Dear people who made it as MD and later on people in charge and can make changes. The alumni association periodically brings graduates from the US and/or Canada to the school to talk about tips for residency, how to adapt in our transition when we return to the USA for clinicals, and how to study for USMLE, among other topics. I have had 3 doctors have interns that didnt know the names of basic medical problems, medications, rapport with patients and are simply dumb as a box of rocks if you ask me. etc. I did not apply to SGU because I had read about the huge class sizes and Grenada did not sound appealing to me. Fall semester ends before Christmas dont start up again until February, BUTFinal exams in January?!? If you were surprised, Im not sure why because for our class, they literally had a mandatory lecture in Term 1 where we learned all about WMPG correlation to Step scores, and why it was important for us to do well in order to get a residency. I got an excellent education, met a lot of great people, scored great on my boards and landed a residency in Emergency Medicine which is one of the more competitive specialties. The islands might not be the right race for you, it doesnt mean you are weak, but they just might not be for you. Need some advice PLEASE! They throw us all against the wall and whoever sticks gets to stay, whoever falls they leave behind. Let me stay focused on the Caribbean ones. THIS NEED TO BE CORRECTED . To anyone who has suffered at the hands of carribean med schools, or who is reading this and has had even a remotely similar situation. I actually went the Mexican route. What you start with is what you end with. Same concepts, but emphasis on certain topics differ, which can change test scores. As long as you keep your head in the game and ignore all the distractions (which is hard of course) you will make it. Look at the gainful employment disclosures on the websites of all the schools that have Title IV, just look at the field that says % of those who completed the program on time. SGU is about 66% which is laughable but oddly respectable compared to some other schools that are %50 and lower. Yes-they had mandatory attendance and a dress code. Its all about motivation and not falling in with the students who dont take it seriously or who dont put in enough time. We also have a health clinic on campus that also takes emergencies 24/7. Like a fellow doc from Berkely told me, the socialist goal is to get doctors off their ivory towers and everone should get the same reward regadless of their effort. Sure, its a Caribbean medical school but its also one that can set you up for clinical rotations in top U.S. and Canadian teaching hospitals provided you pass through all your pre-clinical training within 20 months. They will ALL tell you it was HELL. (4) Yes, IMGs from anywhere have to score higher on Step to get the same residency. Say whatever you like, but we were in all the way: Mind, body, soul, money. Would you mind elaborating how the Caribbean Med School system follows that of Germany or Switzerland or the UK? Get rid of your TV and headphones if you are struggling. I started with sgu in 1998. I had several people say just go get your Nurse Practioner degree, but when I looked into that, the same amount of time would be required so I focused on Med School or PA School. I mean Im currently living my dream. Compared to most U.S. med schools thats a fairly high rate (meaning more students leave without a degree), but for Caribbean schools, its fairly strong (Ross University is 41.7%). I paid 10,000 dollars per semester and of course its more for clinical postings. I went to law school instead. Finally, residency positions are available for the people who work for them. I know sometimes doctors treat someone and they think everything is alright, only to be shocked that person passed away. We lose someone because pre-med and Biological science major was hard, there is nothing easy about the road to medicine. Do not do not do not go to a foregien med school. When it comes to Caribbean medical schools, I think there are a lot of both pros and cons. Rules are going to be strict than you are used to. PSS As a student, employed in the International Student Office and a Test Monitor I caught numerous now nothing is done. Ill call you now!! Whatever happens, there is one thing I know; I been learning to be a doctor and now that I am well, if I could do it again, I would go for it. By the way the same company that is majority share holder of SGU bought prometric in 2018. I am a current student there. A subsequent 3 day (as I recall) FLEX exam . The university receives application from the students at any time of the year, a student can plan in advance to inquire about the status of the classes and Med School program for its application, the Saba University of Medicine Acceptance Rate for each class is approximately 90 students in each. Even at SGU, ROSS, and AUC there is no guarantee that you will graduate and even if you do manage to graduate, there is no guarantee you will end up matching into a program you like or even the specialty that you initially wanted. I wouldnt have an issue with the low gpa cut-off if prospective students were given the real numbers on how many students make it through each semester. The school has to have this 40 percent attrition rate to fund the paid positions for our clinical rotations in the US. event in San Jose, while researching alternatives to medical school. For me I caved, my mental health went kaboom. English: at least one uear of college-level English literature or composition. Compared to other schools I must say AUA does have good resources and facilities. Additionally, if you have the study material for Step 1 and have learned it well, you will pass every class with more than a 70% aka a C. Furthermore, if you cannot score a 70% or better on NBME subject exams, how do you expect to score well on Step 1? The rest probably have IQs lower than average (most doctors fall between 108 and 130 and money is getting them through these programs. I know of a class that started off semester 1 with 45 students. Can you imagine going through the stress and rigors of medical school while having to be constantly thinking about the $300,000 in med school loans PLUS any undergraduate loans, WHILE worrying about your own school turning on you, WHILE worrying about whether your land lord is going to extort you or not, WHILE worrying about getting beaten, raped, murdered, detained by corrupt law enforcement or just plain sick without reliable access to healthcare?
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